Hi guys,I hope you're in a great condition now.
I've played Mafia Wars for 3 months and so far money achievements are the hardest for me. Here I'm gonna share you about how to obtain "That's with a "T"" Achievement. I got this info from Yonks, the Top Mafia - Disabled admin. All credits go to him!
BTW ... to get this achievement, you MUST deposit $1,111,111,111,112
Remember : A 10% laundering fee will be taken out of all incoming funds. That's why we have to deposit more than $1,000,000,000,000.
Also ... I am NOT leaving the money in the bank. Doing so would substantially impede my ability to earn additional cash (BEST way to accumulate cash is by doing the Agostino Cleto Boss Fight ... it is NOT done through buying properties). We'll discuss about this Boss job later on..
Yes, the Agostino Cleto Boss Fight is the ONLY aspect in the game that scales positively for reaching these achievements. The payout received from doing that boss fight is based upon your cash on hand.
Here is what I got from just completing a Boss Fight ...
You earned $1,841,300,302 for defeating this boss. It cost you 285 energy points and brought you 399 experience points.
● I have 1425 energy total ... 1425 x 20% = 285 energy cost
● Cash on Hand, I had $1,022,944,612,056 x 0.18% = $1,841,300,301
That made EACH energy point worth $6,460,702.81
Buying properties is a poor way to accumulate cash for several reasons:Here is what I got from just completing a Boss Fight ...
You earned $1,841,300,302 for defeating this boss. It cost you 285 energy points and brought you 399 experience points.
● I have 1425 energy total ... 1425 x 20% = 285 energy cost
● Cash on Hand, I had $1,022,944,612,056 x 0.18% = $1,841,300,301
That made EACH energy point worth $6,460,702.81
► Scales negatively (the more property you buy, the more expensive they become each time). I personally have bought property. For me to buy additional casinos ... it would take ~130 days for that investment on next purchase of casinos to repay for themselves.
► Having more properties (especially casinos) increases the likelihood that you will be robbed. While having Robbing Defense boosts will greatly lessen the chances of being robbed, that still exists.
That's it! I hope this posting can help you to gain this achievement, guys..
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80 comments:
e.g. if i will do some Boss Jobs, let's say and i'll have at my hands 1,000,000,000 in the moment and my energy is 1000, so then mathematically how many dollars i'll get?
You would gain 180,000,000 for the use of 200 energy! the more cash you have in-hand the bigger the payout!!!
I currently have $841,000,000,000 and would get $1,500,000,000 for fighting Cleto and have to use 487 energy. I wonder why such a discrepancy with the energy required?
well, by doing Boss Jobs u anyway can get the same amount of money. isn't it like that?
Congrats! I'm working my way slowly but surely toward that achievement... I'm just glad that the Add Me loophole opened up long enough for me to add a bunch of Mafia Mikes last week!
Another positive aspect of the Agostino Boss Fight is the lower energy ratio for those of us with a lot of energy who are maximizing our points before leveling up. Particularly when a Mafia Energy Boost is involved. Trying to accumulate the higher end loots generally have 2:1 ratios... so the Agostino Fight makes it easier to spend all those points that might go to waste before we move on up!
but wht about xps?????
Totally agrees with Whiner with maximizing the remainder of energy points just before level up!
I'm wondering in the calculations how he's taking 20% off the energy required to fight the boss?? Is that hit and miss or is there some achievement i'm missin that gives you 20% off jobs?
I have just looked into the calculations on this and think it WRONG!!!!!!!!!
the amount of cash in hand x 0.0018 = the payout!!!!! not x0.18 as stated on the original post.
Can you prove me wrong? i dont think you can
Colin S, the original post may have been changed after you commented, but I am seeing "0.18%" which would be 0.0018.
this is very confusing. You have to have a trillion to make this work, and thats the goal. you get a billion or so by his logic but that would take another 80 times of doing this at that rate. Did I miss something obvious?
I'm not sure but with the update that happen a few minutes ago. BOSS FIGHTS are gone... can anyone verify or is it just me.??
yeah i dont see te boss fight anymore...
the boss fights are back up again
can anyone tell me whats the point fighting the boss when you can do max 5 attacks in a row ( 125%energy from EP and 20% spend on each fight) because after deposeting the money in the bank you have 90.8% of the original money. i mean you loose almost 10% because of the laundering fee.....
my bad its 6 attacks in a row and you have 90.9% of the money after deposeting. but still almost the same..................
I don't agree to you on this point.. Robbing gives you much more than spending energy points.
Robbing ... only if you're an a$$hole. Bottomline, to get that out of robbing you have to really work to find those people w/ good loot and then rob them blind, thus ending up w/ retribution and pi$$ed off hombres. No reason for that.
There is an even easier way to get easy money.
why dont you say it when there is one?
I tried this and it took my money and said I ran away even thought I clicked on the fight button.....tried it 3 times and it did it every time!! I lost a TON of money and energy.
Thank you very much for the info! I've quit buying properties because of this information and am now letting $91 billion accrue and then will start doing boss fights ($91 billion is when it becomes a better payout/energy point than the best boss job).
One comment - for doing this it is actually better to have a lower total energy. That way, you can accrue enough energy to do a boss fight in a shorter amount of time. So, might want to consider that before you spend profile points on energy. I only have 500 energy, I think I'll keep it that way since it means I accrue enough energy to do the boss fight approximately every 4 hours...
With robbing gone now I have to wonder if I would waste the energy and time it takes to invest in getting this little accomplishment.
The points here are well taken, but I can accumulate $$$ through properties by sitting on my ass and using my energy on the precious jobs. I'm still plugging away to get through the very last NYC jobs and have accumulated almost 1,000 energy.
I haven't hardly touched the jobs in Cuba, but have maxed out the businesses and have paid for all the weapons, armor, and vehicles needed to smash through Cuba once I polish off NYC.
Messing around w/ the big "T" accomplishment doesn't seem like there's enough of a payoff.
I have a ton of properties making me more than a 1/10 of a billion an hour. I know at that rate it will take forever to reach the big "T", but BFD.
If I was actually spending real $$$ on the game and getting huge Godfather points like a lot of the people playing this game, I guess I'd be at more than 3,000+ energy and able to polish off level after level as fast as my finger could click the mouse.
Not reality and not where my pocket book is going. I guess everyone has their priorities.
Guess I won't be getting the big "T".
It's a good accomplishment to brag about, only after you realize you spent several weeks trying to do it, only to get ONE skill point and brag for about 10 minutes. It really is a let-down if you ask me.
I dont understand this is it my money in the bank cause it say I get 21600 that is all I see.
I just took out 200,000 from the bank and the payout still stays at 21600?
This post makes no sense to me.
hahaha! just do jobs in boss Make Arrangements for a Visiting Don. if you have 1,300+ energy up it's way much bigger amount to give than fight the boss. do the math pls.
the worse tut. ever in mafia wars lol...
i don't agree with this theory.... i think it's better do the boos job "Make Arrangements for a Visiting Don"..... you'll need less energy and get more Money and Experience
I think the usefulness of this tip depends largely on your cash on hand.
In my case, fighting the boss pays $1B+ for 80E while "make arrangements" pays only $57M for 35E. That works out to $1.6M per point for "make arrangements" and $13M per point for the boss fight.
This tip really pays off for a low E/high $ character. A 200E player with $1T in cash could make $13B/day
As far as experience, "Make arrangements" pays better with a 1.97 ROI vs 1.4 for the boss fight
As for properties being a bad investment, I disagree for several reasons.
1. Beyond a certain point the money serves no purpose except the achievements. I'm currently making about $9B/day off my properties. No way I could spend that all on stuff or hospital visits. Might as well reinvest it and grow my income in case MW later changes NY cash to be worth something.
2. Once you reach a certain level, the more property you have, the LESS damage you take. Take my properties for example. I have hundreds of most properties, thousands of some. When someone goes on a rampage against me, the MOST damage they can do is about $400M. And they spend 5-700 stamina to do that. I earn enough to cover the repairs in 1.5 hours. So in effect, they trade several days worth of valuable stamina to take 2 hours worth of useless cash from me. I'm ok with that... Actually more than ok because whenever a bully is attacking one of my low level friends I draw their attention to me and act as a shield.
Now without robbing - there is no more damage to the properties.
I am just not sure what to do. I am just about a master boss in NY (doing the last job now) and have not touched cuba or russia. I am fearless and my energy level is 978 energy points and refreshes every 4:30 min 1 point. My stamina is only 42.
I make $127,294,875 an hour and I make right around 3 Billion a day. Right now have $16,964,049,152 (17 Billion) in cash.
Now if I fight the boss - I will only make $30,535,288 for 196 energy points ($16,964,049,152 X 0.0018=$30,535,288).
If I do the Make Arrangements for a Visiting Don - I can make $57,000,001 for 36 energy points. If I do the job 6 times and spend 216 points - I can make $342,000,006
So for the boss job to be profitable - you need to make more than $342,000,006 when spending 196 points. That happens when you have about $190,000,000,000 cash on hand X 0.0018 = $342,000,000.
All the talk about having low energy does not matter because you would still need to have 190B cash for the job to start turning a profit better than the Make Arrangements for a Visiting Don unless you have over the 190B. And even so – 342 M will still take a while to get to a trillion!
Now this is good to do if your right about to level up and still have 196 energy points that are going to disappear. This can give you a big 274-energy point boost.
Do you think it would be best for me to keep my money I have in cash now – 17 billion – or would it be best for me to re-invest in properties and have the properties give me more per hour?
I have 35 Mikes; 50 Rent Houses; 25 Restaurants; 100 Apartments; 150 Valu-Marts; 150 Marina Shops; 210 Offices; 180 Hotels; 170 Casinos – am I missing something???
James
SPECIAL NOTE:
You CAN NOT be doing anything in other tabs/windows (like DoJobs / gifting / etc) while attempting a boss fight ... you will run away and LOSE the experience and cash.
Agostino Cleto Boss Fight:
Energy Cost = 20% Total Energy ... 1525 x 20% = 305 energy
Payout = 0.18% Cash on Hand ... $1,199,898,257,596 x 0.18% = $2,159,816,864
Just found this about the enrgy difference too - this is why those with low energy may benefit too
james
I ran across someone who is level 274, not playing too long and she is making close to 2 billion an hour according to her brag. I make about 300 million an hour, I have more properties then her, 1200 of each, except for casino and hotel which I have 400 of. How are some people making so much money an hour. is there a hack out?
I've not been able to test this yet,but I'm hoping it will work for me,as I've been wanting this achievement for some time now and all I ever seem to do is invest all my hard-earned money into my properties.
Mega Casinos:159
5-Star Hotels:100
Office Buildings:100
Marina Tourist Shops:100
Upkeep:-$1,230,180/3 Hours
Income:$269,418,750/3 Hours
Got to wait a few hours for it's time to pick up my energy pack and hopefully I'm going see if this thing works, however it does concern me because you may need to use up Health Kits, Shivs and getaway drivers, which you can have a Maximum of 10 at one time.
About the level 274 person who makes 2 bil an hour.
I currently have 16,000 mafia. I had 20,000 before people were able to "remove mafia who are not friends". At that time, I could have easily kept going and gotten to 100,000 or 150,000 mafia.
If, and I say if, someone were to get to 300,000 mafia, you could then, theoretically, have 150,000 Mafia Mikes. 150,000 x $12,000=$1,800,000,000. You now would have $1,800,000,000/hr. You can then add your other properties...assume $200,000,000/hr. That would give you a total of 2b/hr.
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just an update - im james and last posted back on 10/10
so far im just letting my properties make the money. about once a day or - generally when i have an energy refil - i am doing the boss job.
My energy is about 1400 now and it cost close to 275 to do the job. I make $156,141,664 per job. so im slowly getting there - but NY is accumulating! :)
i am getting very annoyed with my mafia wars i'm not making any money even though i have propertys and my money that was in the bank has gone and i thought that couldnt be touched or robbed i had 5 million in there yesterday and i just been on now and its all gone.
Can any1 tell me why it is going missing.?
It must be one bug or error or glitch occured. Perhaps you can send your complain letter to Zynga team.
You can find it on their forum.
Try this one :
http://forums.zynga.com/showthread.php?t=41592
(You need to register first)
it is way more profitible to spend the energy on prepare for a visiting don job - i have just over 2400 energy and dropping 35 a time will get me 56 million but if i take my whole 750 billion out the bank i still only get a little over 37 million a time for spending over 400 energy so over 6 times the energy just over half the pay out and way less experience - dont make me luagh the best way is buy 20,000 of each peoperty as this will mean you make over 20 billion an hour and just sit on it
Anonymous on 20th nov, u got the calc wrong: if u have 750 billion u'll get 1,35 billion each fight.
The number of times to fight Cleto to get the 1 trillion achievement, based on what u currently have (X) is the "n" in this formula:
X*1,0018^n=1,111 trillion
Let's say u have 100 billion, then the formula would be:
0,1 trillion*1,0018^n=1,111 trillion ->
n=(ln 11,1)/(ln 1,0018)= 1338,95 = 1339 fights
Let's say 15 fights per day -> 1339/15=89,3 days
Following from the above, it would equally many fights to go from 1 trillion to 10 trillion achievement.
To go from 10 trillion to 999 trillion would take 2555 fights = 170 days (15 fights/day)
help. i can;t buy any properties. i am a level 360 mogul. i can only do rackets right now. i am pretty much have all my rackets doing "crooked suburb". i am getting a ton of cash everytime i collect rackets.
did zynga changed it so moguls cannot buy properties anymore? how do i complete the achievements?
Some versions of MW have properties and some have rackets. If you have one, you can't have the other. I think it depends on when you started playing.
i have rackets too - ans i think its terribly unfair that we cant have properties - there are some achievements we just cant get. that should be changed!!!!
There are some math parts here that need to happen.
Make "arrangements for a visiting don" BEATS Augustino Cleto until you have $170 Million / energy point. So if you have 500 energy cap you need 85 billion. at 2500 energy you need 425 billion. At 6471 Energy Cleto is a lost cause.
With proper spending of points, the visiting don can get you close to a full cycle where you can wait a few hours between levelings.
Property should be bought until the payoff time exceeds ~~75% of the time to reach 1 trillion from your current cash point.. So if your pulling in 200M/hr with a 10 billion in reserve then Buy until your paying 3500 X the income.
if you had 500 billion in reserve, spend no more than 1750 x income.
200M/ hr is 5000h wait or 200 days =~~ 7 months.
Best way to reach the 1T and the 10T is: (assuming you have an energy based account, I have over 2000Energy, and only 60 stamina)
-buy properties until you're making around 300Mil/3hours, after this mark stop buying, cause it'll take forever to recover the investment, and your income will slowly increase beyond this point
-do settle a beef permanently + make arrangements for a visiting don, making sure you can level just on those jobs = +-2bil/hour
-fight in NY and keep fighting if winning $65,000
-Start fighting Cleto only when you're able to get $170 Million / energy point
so get your spreadsheet out, or calculator and do: "Cash in Hand"*0.0018 / ("Current Energy" * 0.20)
Look forward to seeing lots of 1T achievements.
ok, following the last post on the site...I am at roughly 145k every hour...what's next for this?? energy is at 825.
Someone throw me a bone or message me so I can work on this..http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1760481890
$1,187,145,000 was deposited in your account after the bank's fee.
my result of visiting don....
I hope I am on the right track to put off Moscow for this...lol
started trying to do this on the Oct 10 post - right now I am at $786,936,589,595
I did not devote all my time into NY - I have since mastered Cuba and Moscow.
Right now my energy is 2870
I spend most my enery in NY doing the Make Arrangements for a Visiting Don at 35 energy points for 69 in return. So I can do that job 82 times and make 4,551,000,000 but I get over 5658 because I get no energy or 34 extra energy on random occassions (im fearless).
With the Boss Fight - Confront Agostino Cleto - It requires 573 but I can make 802 experience. So I can do that job 5 times with 2870 energy getting 4010 experience. The payout for me is 1,416,485,861 times 5 is 7,082,429,305.
I tend to do the Don job a lot more - just because it gives me more experience points - and I can level up faster. But in reality if I have an energy boost available - I should be able to level up using the don job - then do the boss job - use the energy pack - level up again - then go back to the don job.
I have not really bought many properties and still only make US$130,299,670/ hour maybe after I get the first T award - I should look at investing the first T back into maxing out properties?
Any advice on that?
James
If you already have over 500 energy, it is not recommended to do the Enforcer Boss job. Higher max energy = higher energy cost. It always costs 0.2 of your total energy. So forget about doing it if you already have a large energy pool. Unless you want to compromise faster level ups for one achievement and some bragging rights.
$,386,236,250 per hour
142 energy
level 30
should I consider 1T?
On the 25th I was at $786,936,589,595
Now on the 30th - im at $998,731,588,567
I have been still doing the visit the don/enforcer boss jobs. I just was given the passport to enter bangkok - so i figured I will finish this T. Then move on to bangkok.
I will prob re-invest the first 1 trillion - back into properties. then let them collect money!
i love having 3000 plus energy! I can advance a few levels a day now!
james
Any idea how much cash would i get from selling 150 casinos, 100 hotels, 100 Office Building & 100 Marina Tourist Shops?
I am at lv 93 and have 352 max energy. I am Fearless, so my energy doesn't recover quickly and because of that, I skipped Capo to complete consigliere for the 30 second reduction. Anyways, I wanted to know what kind of level you have to be at to have insanely high energy like some people on here? On another note, I only earn $51,324,835 an hour from properties, and it seems to take forever to earn the rising amount of expense for casinos, so I have been purchasing more hotels and offices. Any advice for me?
P.S.: Does the amount of skill points the Godfather gives you for Reward points rise as you purchase them? I noticed it does for Hired Guns.
Thanks, Sir Stephen.
The trick with properties is to try and work out what gives the best ROI (Return On Investment). There seems to be 2 thresholds - Mafia Mikes and then the hotels. You save money by waiting until you have enough to buy 10 properties at a time, as each time you buy a property the cost goes up!.
Also I found to get the Casino achievement, you don't need to buy 50 casinos, just buy 1 and sell it - then do this 50 times!
This is terrible advice if you've got an energy account.
It only takes about 6000ish energy points to get to 1T using the Make Arrangements boss job. You can do it in fewer energy points using the boss fight, but you get a MUCH lower energy/xp payout.
If you are a fearless character set up to level continuously you should just invest 60,000 energy or so into the Make Arrangement job and bank both the 1T and 10T achievements at the same time.
With 5000 energy per level and a properly set up energy account I can do this in about 5-10 minutes by doing about 90% Make Arrangements and 10% Settle A Beef Permanently. I'll hit my level every time on one energy bar.
If you have a low energy account and have a couple hundred billion on hand already it might be faster to go with the boss job, but I bet it will still take weeks unless you have a Max-Stamina account.
999T is a waste of time because I'd need to drop at least 100 levels into it. I'll probably work on that once I finish up Bangkok and have nothing better to do.
As for properties, they are great up to a point. I just wouldn't buy any more than the 100 of each property required for the latest set of NY Properties achievements. After that they're a waste of money.
Even though I have several million dollars in "cash in hand," Agostino is still only paying out $112,800. What's up with that? Did they change it?
I have 1.016.000.000.000 $ in the bank and i still not have the achievement:S
Whats the problem???
Any updates on how to get this T one done?
dont do that you have cash on hand to make it and lose 10 times more depositing afterwards you get f'd really bad that way
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